tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post1701623883333531827..comments2024-01-28T00:20:40.933-08:00Comments on Agoraphilia: Before She Goes Batshit CrazyUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post-11462548463717205052007-11-14T16:33:00.000-08:002007-11-14T16:33:00.000-08:00But, Glen...Doesn't singing the song pay the high ...But, Glen...<BR/><BR/>Doesn't singing the song pay the high cost of self-identifying as a member of the batshit-crazy community?Gilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16905127825110313631noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post-34622426692524010322007-11-14T12:06:00.000-08:002007-11-14T12:06:00.000-08:00I'm pretty sure singing this song karaoke-style is...<EM>I'm pretty sure singing this song karaoke-style is a way to signal that only men with a *very* strong commitment to monogamy should even bother.</EM><BR/><BR/>The problem is that for a signal to be effective, it has to be high cost for someone outside the specified group to send; otherwise the signal is too easily copied. Trashing someone's car is high cost. Merely <EM>singing</EM> about trashing someone's car is low cost.Glen Whitmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01425907466575991113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post-42581917637049653732007-11-13T12:07:00.000-08:002007-11-13T12:07:00.000-08:00blink:I'm pretty sure singing this song karaoke-st...blink:<BR/><BR/>I'm pretty sure singing this song karaoke-style is a way to signal that only men with a *very* strong commitment to monogamy should even bother. I imagine this is what the angry chick in the song is signalling, too -- warning off insufficiently faithful future mates.LPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02844904529273489063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post-84216248708529684262007-11-12T19:19:00.000-08:002007-11-12T19:19:00.000-08:00Signing one's own name seems to rule out altruism;...Signing one's own name seems to rule out altruism; I vote for warning other women. This explains why she chooses to ruin his car rather than damage his…um…body: he still belongs to her and she would not want to harm her own property.<BR/><BR/>What I wonder now is what one signals by choosing this song for karaoke. Somehow, I don’t think it sends the message “I’m available.”blinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14029828823460781386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post-38565498490291855192007-11-12T16:24:00.000-08:002007-11-12T16:24:00.000-08:00And hey, notice the non-veridical 'before'!lp: I'd...And hey, notice the non-veridical 'before'!<BR/><BR/>lp: I'd never heard this Beatles song, but it does remind me of another cheery (except for the chorus) song by them that expresses a typical abuser's viewpoint: "Try to See It My Way". In each verse, although the speaker doesn't say outright that his view is correct ("Only time will tell if I am right or I am wrong"), he implies it by saying, "Think of what I'm saying; we can work it out and get it straight or say goodnight." All he can say about the hearer's viewpoint, however, is that she (or he, I suppose) "could get it wrong and still you think that it's all right," and that if she insists on sticking to it, she may "run the risk of knowing that our love may soon be gone," and "there's a chance that we might fall apart before too long." Not physically threatening, but the condescending attitude is common among abusers. Hat tip to... Mom, the only one I've ever heard making this point about the song.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post-1078747841453545722007-11-12T14:00:00.000-08:002007-11-12T14:00:00.000-08:00I think #3 is right on, and is a pretty powerful s...I think #3 is right on, and is a pretty powerful signal to send -- should effectively screen out any potential mates without a *very* strong commitment to monogmy. Another example of alarming anti-cheating signaling in pop music: the Beatles' 'Run for your life', which is actually a pretty horrible pro-domestic violence tune, if you can get past the cheery melodic line:<BR/><BR/>Well I'd rather see you dead, little girl<BR/>Than to be with another man<BR/>You better keep your head, little girl<BR/>Or I won't know where I am<BR/><BR/>You better run for your life if you can, little girl<BR/>Hide your head in the sand little girl<BR/>Catch you with another man <BR/>That's the end'a little girl<BR/><BR/>Well you know that I'm a wicked guy<BR/>And I was born with a jealous mind<BR/>And I can't spend my whole life<BR/>Trying just to make you toe the line [...]LPhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02844904529273489063noreply@blogger.com