tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post5840311663672092992..comments2024-01-28T00:20:40.933-08:00Comments on Agoraphilia: Toilet Seat SignalingUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post-34635907782235594822007-09-20T20:58:00.000-07:002007-09-20T20:58:00.000-07:00Closing both seat and lid every time works well fo...Closing both seat and lid every time works well for all the reasons Heather listed, and it also lessens the probability that other household members will drop their rubber duckies into it.Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02281898493441055833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post-72171162960023325232007-09-16T20:48:00.000-07:002007-09-16T20:48:00.000-07:00"Your point about flying particles of feces may be..."Your point about flying particles of feces may be well taken."<BR/><BR/>And I thought the Flying Spaghetti Monster was strange!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post-58787685233391444202007-09-16T18:51:00.000-07:002007-09-16T18:51:00.000-07:00In my house the rule absolutely is LID DOWN when f...In my house the rule absolutely is LID DOWN when finished using the toilet. I suppose this is the costliest in terms of energy: all parties must lift the lid and then close the lid. But it saves time in bickering, and makes the bathroom appear neater...who wants to look at a big bowl when they walk in? Once you get in the habit of making the potty look a bit mysterious by hiding the big bowl, you'll find the big open bowl even more noticeable and gauche when you visit other people's bathrooms. Although now I suppose that the stress created by noticing other people's open toilets would not otherwise exist if it weren't for my own stupid rule. ack!Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01050141568945340839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post-85520591313580859152007-09-16T13:43:00.000-07:002007-09-16T13:43:00.000-07:00"If a man and a woman each use the toilet 3 times ..."If a man and a woman each use the toilet 3 times a day, and the man uses one of his 3 for taking a poo... then 4 out of 6 uses of the toilet each day would require sitting down. So it is more efficient to leave the seat down."<BR/><BR/>Nope! Each time a male #1 is followed by a male #1, it's not necessary to put the seat down. If the <EM>next</EM> person to use the toilet makes the seat adjustment, they will only make it if it's necessary. But if the <EM>last</EM> person to use the toilet seat makes the seat adjustment, they have to make it every time -- even when it's not necessary. <BR/><BR/>Your point about flying particles of feces may be well taken. However, dealing with it would require having both seat and lid down for every flush, and that policy just isn't under consideration in most households.Glen Whitmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01425907466575991113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post-18515231404750116342007-09-16T10:02:00.000-07:002007-09-16T10:02:00.000-07:00If a man and a woman each use the toilet 3 times a...If a man and a woman each use the toilet 3 times a day, and the man uses one of his 3 for taking a poo... then 4 out of 6 uses of the toilet each day would require sitting down. So it is more efficient to leave the seat down.<BR/><BR/>However, there may be cleanliness issues to leaving the seat up... (but only after flushing!!) When you flush you should put both the seat and the cover down as flushing causes water droplets to come out the toilet and these can land anywhere in the bathroom.<BR/><BR/>These droplets may contain your defecation and can land in yur hair, your eyes, or on your toothbrush. So you would be brushing your teeth with microscopic amounts of your faeces on the brush.<BR/><BR/>So much for worrying about signalling!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post-12463435763601209512007-09-14T15:35:00.000-07:002007-09-14T15:35:00.000-07:00Marshall - my comment was not a response to yours,...Marshall - <BR/><BR/>my comment was not a response to yours, I should have made that more clear. I wasn't intending to give women a history of being obnoxious. <BR/><BR/>Looking back, what I was describing was the origin of the phrase "if mom's not happy, no one's happy". And then connecting that to why women prefer the seat down.<BR/><BR/>But in response, I absolutely do not believe this is an issue of dominance over one sex, or else there would not be just one sex that is known for disliking a certain seat preference. As women are /known/ for wanting the seat down, men do not get upset if the seat is left down. If the seat is left up, a woman might complain, if the seat is left down it is unlikely a man will say anything.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05546754313161870140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post-68272687185409925962007-09-12T23:15:00.000-07:002007-09-12T23:15:00.000-07:00carrie - this is an empirical question. Were women...carrie - this is an empirical question. Were women as "obnoxious", as you seem to suggest they were, when 72% specialised in home production?<BR/><BR/>I don't remember - but I don't think they were - as issues of dominance were resolved.Marshall Bolton/Zighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09369868385363642826noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post-63145871722466232652007-09-12T09:25:00.000-07:002007-09-12T09:25:00.000-07:00One interesting part of this issue is that it is o...One interesting part of this issue is that it is only attributable to private bathrooms. Public bathrooms [usually] create a distinction between the sexes which eliminates any needed change. Where I think the AD proponents are coming from begins pre-WWII, when only 28% of women were in the labor force leaving 72% to specialize in home production. The home was a woman’s domain, statistically. The same way no lady would ever walk into her husband’s office and leave his swivel chair re-adjusted, she expects him to leave her seat where he found it. Since home production is a job with no monetary compensation, leaving things where she has put them will [under CWN] reduce her already unpaid labor and allow for a higher morale. Even though the role of homemaker is beginning to even out between sexes, women are going to hedge against flushing AD policy. In my personal opinion, whoever cleans the shit should reap the benefits of seat placement decisions.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05546754313161870140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3829599.post-28525537093464000972007-09-11T23:06:00.000-07:002007-09-11T23:06:00.000-07:00I still think that this is more an isssue of domin...I still think that this is more an isssue of dominance. <BR/><BR/>Who is dominating whom?<BR/><BR/>This question has to be asked and confirmed regularly, which means you can't hold a bargained position very long as the question niggles its way back.<BR/><BR/>Dominance is not about giving and receiving gifts. Dominance is about one person deciding over another person. This unhappy state of affairs never gets resolved as submission requires more dominance.<BR/><BR/>If the game begins it is almost impossible not to play.Marshall Bolton/Zighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09369868385363642826noreply@blogger.com